throughout the last you know 30 40 years there have been many moments where we said we’re on the brink of collapse what is the time frame you think for when this is gonna get really bad and when it does get really bad what would that actually look like so what Japan has done is to by printing a lot of money they have had their currency go down and so that currency decline is the way it’s depreciated so if you have a bond holder in Japan they’ve lost about 80% of their value in their purchasing power and that becomes the dynamic that’s the same sort of dynamic so the next thing I think that you’re going to see with the in the United States is you’re going to see a squeezing of consumption so at the federal government level as the debt service payments arising and the debts arising on those you’re going to see the squeeze there’s very little room between entitlements that are fixed payments and the actual revenues that are coming in you’re going to start to see that squeeze the real issue will become if you start to see the selling of those bonds the next red flag to go up is when the government when the Federal Reserve and other central banks come in and buy again and then the next time that is a very risk risky point is when we have the next economic downturn and I think that that probably will be within the next four years