I talk about it being half time in America. We’re a touchdown down, and I kinda like the idea of being a little bit behind her. Well, I’m looking at Coach Walls right now. I’m looking at Coach Walls. [“Sweet Home Run”] Like I have white guy tacos and black- What is that, like mayonnaise and tuna? What are you doing? Pretty much ground beef and cheese. That’s okay. Do you put any flavor in it? No. Here’s the deal. No, they said to be careful and let her know this, that black pepper is the top of the spice level in Minnesota, you know? I’m the first vice president, I believe, who has ever grown chili peppers. Well, I’m trying to expand my food knowledge. You know what, we’ve got some cantaloupes. You’ll be fine. Yeah. So, I called you, Tim. I was hoping maybe we wouldn’t have to. I called you, Tim. Yes. You didn’t answer, Tim. I know, I know. What happened? The most important call of my life, it popped up and we didn’t recognize the caller ID, and it went to voicemail. There you go. It’s possible. Thank you. Hey, Tim, it’s Kamala. I really want to talk to you. It is an amazing privilege for me also. I’m excited. I just want to be part of the excitement that you’re generating. Well, we’re doing it together, buddy. We’re doing it together. How have these last couple of days been for you? I can see where the energy comes. America is a hopeful country. Indeed. People are excited. In every one of those groups of thousands, sometimes over 10,000 people, you’ve seen exactly who we are as America. People from rural areas, urban areas, of every stripe in size and background. This is who we are as America, and we’re all in it together. And in this campaign, the only way we win is to keep the pedal to the metal for these next many, many days that we have. So Tim, what’s your relationship to music? Yeah. For me, the transformational piece of music was Bruce Springsteen’s The River, which is a journey. You know all the tracks, and I’m that guy. My first car, it’s a summer 1980, been saving up. I buy a 1973 orange Chevy Camaro. Got an eight-track player in it. Oh, wow. Previous owner left Bob Seeger’s Night Moves in there. I listened to it, and it’s kind of the soundtrack of my life, of Detroit’s own Bob Seeger. But what’s really great about this is, I have a 79 International as my car. It’s got an eight-track player in it. I have the very eight-track to this day. You’re kidding me. No, but how about you? I grew up, you know, so all these albums here, I mean, Aretha. My mother had every Aretha album, and our Christmas gift to my mother, her birthday gift was always like, what’s the latest Aretha Franklin record? So it’s on on vinyl in your house, all of it. That and Stevie. And then Miles, and my dad loved jazz, and so it was Miles, it was Coltrane. One of my personal favorite musicians for when I was younger was Prince. And of course, from your estate. And he, you know, in fact, I’ll tell you, so my husband, Doug, and I, I’m more of a hip hop girl. He’s more of Depeche Mode. Oh yeah, but the same time. I’m sure you and he like the same music. Of course. But Prince, you know, in the Venn diagram of things, Prince, he and I love the same, because I mean, talk about how Prince was with that guitar, man, I almost know by heart every one of those songs. I feel like a trip to Paisley Park is going to happen here, if the staff is home. It’s on my bucket list, I’ll tell you that. Tell me about your dad and his influence on you. He served our country. You have served for our country for so many years. I was 19, my little brother, I think was eight, eight or nine when he passed. He was a chain smoker. Just addicted, they had a Korean War era. And that generation of men, pretty stoic. After he died, my mom was a stay at home mom. She became our rock. And now she had to go out and get work because the medical bills broke her. And social security, and social security survivor benefits. We’re fine pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps. We had no boots. That’s the boots. And it’s survival, literally. It is survival, we all paid it back. So programs that are just fundamental to keeping people from dropping into poverty, but to live with dignity, you keep talking about that. We gotta help people get through a hard time. We can’t have a country and policies that let people fall through the cracks. I love what you have done with your life. You were coaching a high school football team that was winless. Yes. And you came in, and so they were clearly the underdogs. What happened? Yeah, it’s a team. And I had great coaches with me, and we were friends, and we buckled down. And look, I was a fairly big school, but nobody wanted to play because they hadn’t won. And this group of coaches said, first and foremost, we gotta build the team. We gotta go out and find people. So we invited them in. And I’ll be honest, the first year, we did not score touchdown until the last game of the year. We got shut out in every game. My high score until the final game was my defensive tackle, because we got a safety in one game. Two years later, those kids won a state championship. That school has won several more since then. Right. You build culture. That’s right. You build winning. People wanna be a part of it. And that’s the excitement. That’s the excitement of what it can be. That’s how I feel about our campaign. Our campaign is the underdog campaign. Oh yeah. And with our joy, we also have to understand that we’re still up against some forces that are trying to divide our country. It pains me the kind of division and the stoking of divisions that has taken place. Yes. And when we can remind people and create a space for everyone to come where they see each other and say, Hey, we’re all in this together. It almost feels like everybody’s coming out of their house after a blizzard and a Minnesota reference. And you shovel out, and then you start talking to your neighbors. How was it the last couple of days or whatever it might be? They’re re-energizing and they’re looking for their neighbors. We keep saying, you keep talking about the promise of America. And we say, take care of your neighbor. In the face of a stranger, when you’re looking in the face of a stranger, you should see a neighbor, right? Yeah. I’m about crying on this when you talk about, look, a girl from Oakland, California, and a guy from out in Nebraska on there. And the number of people I watch just kind of nod and break into a smile. This exploiting the differences, it can’t last. I talk about it being halftime in America. We’re a touchdown down because a lot of folks, it’s easier to tear things down. It’s easier to divide than it is to build. But once you start that momentum, once we come out and where we’re at right now, people wanna be part of something that’s winning. They wanna be part of something that’s good. And they wanna be part of something that everybody can be a part of. And I kinda like the idea of being a little bit behind. Well, I’m looking at Coach Walls right now. I’m looking at Coach Walls. Did you always know you wanted to be an attorney? My parents met when they were active in the Civil Rights Movement. I grew up around a bunch of people that were marching and shouting for justice. And some of the heroes of that movement were the lawyers. Thurgood Marshall, right? They understood how to translate the passion from the streets to the courtrooms of our country. And they believed in the Constitution of the United States and the principles upon which it was founded. And that’s where they then, in the courts of America, reminded us of the promise, right? And the ideals of our country, including equality, freedom, right? That’s why I went to law school. But the other reason is, when I was in high school, my best friend I learned was being molested by her stepfather. And when I realized what was happening, I told her, you have to come live with us. I called my mom. You know, I have to tell you, Tim, it was the first time that I realized how not everyone can take their safety for granted. Yeah. And what we should all feel is a sense of responsibility to protect people from harm. So that’s why I decided I wanna be a prosecutor. And as a prosecutor, I prosecuted homicide cases, I prosecuted a number of different types of cases, but I specialized in child sexual assault cases. And one of the things I did was create a whole unit dedicated to focusing on children who are being abused and to ensure that they have dignity in the process and justice. There’s so much work that we still have to do to make sure that children have a voice. For me, that’s kind of with me. Get in as a teacher. It’s about the kids and wherever you teach. Once I had my own children, it became so clear to me. And I think it made me a really good teacher that that child who came through the door was somebody’s most special thing in their life. Thinking of a parent dressing their little one up and sending them off to school so proud of them. I wanted to come through that door and just lift them up, that sense of service. It’s interesting, two different parts of the country, two different lived experiences, but all coming to that same goal of everybody getting a fair shot. Well, I have to tell you, Tim, even though you and I grew up in different parts of the country, you remind me of the people I grew up with. Hardworking folks, plain speaking, people who know the difference between right and wrong and care, love thy neighbor in the most authentic and true way. Those are the folks I grew up with. And I know that’s who you are. And I’m so glad we’re doing this together. I’m proud to be with you.